The copypasta starts with asking is there a character who is stronger or who can defeat Madara, then starts naming off various abilities associated or used by him. Might Guy the character who is stronger than 5 kage in the fourth SHINOBI world war Might guy Is stronger than Kakashi Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA ⦠So, in the 4th Ninja War, when the Alliance, Sasuke and Naruto was fighting Juubito, Hashirama (the real one, not the mokuton bunshin) was stopped by Madara so they could finally fight again. His strength was enough to take on both Madara Uchiha and the Nine-tails at once and that's something that we doubt Pain can ever achieve. Never said her beams weren't dangerous, just they won't catch either opponent. Since the only other Madara ⦠- No one in history acknowledges their power.. - They are only known for starting the 2 most OP clans. 1 year ago Which Madara and Hashirama should easily be able to do unless you think Kawaki is faster than them. Hashirama and Madara mid diff. So i mean if people want to say "cause they were the sage's son".. Then i might as well say Hashirama⦠For me, I would say yes, but not by an exceeding amount. If there had been no Kaguya but Madara had been there and no Sasuke and Naruto could he or him and Hashirama have defended people from the Otsutsukis? Madara Uchiha Copypasta refers to a copypasta based on the Naruto character Madara Uchiha, often used in or to start power level discussions. IMO I would have to say Madara would win at very high difficulty, due to ⦠level 1. Hashirama and his brothers grew up on the battlefield waging constant war with the Senju's rivals: the Uchiha.During his infrequent downtime, Hashirama met a boy his own age named Madara.The two quickly developed a friendly rivalry, be it skipping ⦠4 years ago. The Madara that faced Hashirama needed to attack, the one that Minato faced only needed to keep on his intangibility while he watched and Kyuubi ⦠2 STRONGER: Hashirama Senju As One Of The Greatest Shinobi To Ever Live The God of Shinobi, Hashirama Senju was the hero who saved Konohagakure from his then-rival Madara Uchiha. Share. Better shinobi, not stronger ⦠6) Versatility- Madara has more ninjutsu. Follow edited Dec 29 '13 at 14:29. Hashirama was stabbed multiple times by Madara in War arc. Madara_Uchiha Madara_Uchiha. Even if you argue that while using SM they are equal in terms of power, Hashirama is more experienced), but the injuries Madara received would be healed by Hashirama's superior healing capabilities (Madara had Hashirama ⦠I'm talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no RikudŠJuubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable ⦠Gai and Obito were weaker than kakashi in childhood that obviously means it is set in stone and will never change. Hashirama gets the madara treatment but 10x worse because he's not Uchiha(as they have special perks in kishimoto's manga it's clear as day) and juubi Jin(closest thing to ⦠The Madara that Hashirama faced didn't had S/T, the one Minato faced did. BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke vs. - Their war experience is low compared to Madara and Hashiramas - They both have low jutsu knowledge compared to Madara and Hashirama's. After some amazing talk no jutsu and some flashback in flashback no jutsu, Hashirama drained Madara's Chakra with the ⦠naruto. Report Save. Does this mean Hiruzen was stronger the Hashirama or he was a better hokage than Hashi. Now, not only is alive Hashirama stronger than alive Madara (Hashirama+SM>Madara+EMS+full Kyubi, so one would assume that Hashirama+SM>Madara+SM. 7) kenjutsu- their even. The one that Broke Juubito's Sword, has access to Sage Rasengans in each of it's tails, and the one that pierced the stomach of one of the strongest characters in the manga. ⦠Just like Hashirama ⦠Both Hashirama and Madara had hesitated for no more than a second, but that was enough. There are multiple variations of the copypasta, ⦠No, I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara. Dear, battlers. He was far stronger than Pain and his ambition was likely much greater as well. 18.7k 17 17 gold badges 99 99 silver badges 160 160 bronze badges. ChickenAndJuice 6 years ago #11. All in all Speed wise Minato is definitely a big deal to your favorite character, whereas power wise Hashirama is nothing to Minato (sans Genjutsu). where all of his Ninjutsu power is was useless. Ashura and Indra has the same power, their fight killed them both, like Naruto think that he will died ⦠Even had they thrown their own weapons, they wouldn't have made it in time. So let me get this straight. And you wanna know what he'd do, he would throw the figh because he'd know he can't win. Itachi is smarter than Hashirama by FAR MARGIN. @themingebaron66: The thread asks which version of Madara is the strongest, EMS Madara is already stated to be stronger than Edo Madara according to Hashirama. One of the strongest, yet most underrated shinobi in the entire Naruto series, Hiruzen Sarutobi was the Third Hokage of Konoha. Who wins? asked Dec 28 '13 at 20:59. If Naruto were to fight full power Hashirama 100 times, I feel Naruto would win 54 of those fights and Hashirama 46. Born as a prodigy, Hashirama quickly led the Senjus who were on a never-ending war with the Uchihas, and then later went on to create Konohagakure along with Madara ⦠Hashirama was born during the Warring States Period, the eldest of Butsuma Senju's four sons. Apparently, Hashirama is still stronger than Rinnegan Madara. like some peole do. Madara proved Hashirama's better in single combat and went on to attain, however briefly, increasingly greater powers between the Mangekyo, Rinnegan, and Ten-Tailed Beast. Madara wins barely 4) intelligence- Madara takes this. Hashi stands no chance against an 8th gate Guy.Guy stomped a Juubi Madara (even though Madara could have wiped the floor with Guy if he took the fight seriously and wasn't ganged up on) and if you believe Hashi's power is comparable to SP Madara⦠Kurama Nine tails power or Madara perfect susanoo? Also those are reaction speeds not movement speeds. 2 Hiruzen Sarutobi. And Hashirama is stronger than Madara who can solo all of them. Living Hashirama and EMS Madara(no Kyuubi) User Info: ChickenAndJuice. Improve this question. Hashirama meeting Madara. well thats also wrong because madara has all he needs to completely destroy that thing. Madara vs Hashirama All Fights in Naruto Shippuden.Two of the legendary characters that changed, history of ninja world in Naruto Shippuden. Hashirama's superiority is in ninjutsu. Let alone having the ability of Sasuke and Naruto. 1. If Naruto had time to talk to him he would make him cry far more than he made Nagato. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. Is Madara alone enough to defeat them? , madara wanting to fight hashirama clearly shows that madara himself believes that he is superior. Yes, Hashirama is a god level Shinobi. The First Hokage is one of the most powerful shinobi to have ever lived, but Madara kept improving himself in life and after his resurrection. Hashirama Senju is regarded as one of the strongest shinobi in the history. Hashirama had an anti-bijuu bloodline, Minato didn't. Hashirama himself stated that Itachi is a greater shinobi than him. Madara became like a god, and Hashirama was left in ⦠or they use the ShinSūsenju because madara doesnt have a counter for it. Hashirama was never a "no-good", he was a genius kid, the only man who can control the mokuton (Ashura or Naruto cannot use the mokuton). Also, RM Naruto wanted to be a greater Hokage than Minato, not Hashirama. Same with Sasuke but the gap would be shorter, probably 52 wins for Sasuke to 48 wins for Madara. 5. share. So the question at hand is, are Naruto and Sasuke stronger than a full power Madara and Hashirama? However, Hashirama has been shown getting the best of him in their sparring matches (it seems like it). As per me uchiha madara perfect susanoo is stronger than nine tails power It seems silly that Hashirama who was stronger than Madara could not break Orochimaru's seal, while Madara was able to break Kabuto's more powerful seal. Madara is the God of Shinobi along with Hashirama.They both are in a category of their own so don't compare them with others like Obito(as of now atleast).Obito is stronger than Nagato, because (SPOILER) according to the latest manga chapter, he's the ten tails jinchuuriki now.Nagato cannot even compare to the ⦠Update: if whats you say is true than why does madara say sasuke has proven difficult to manipulate , and if he is stronger than pain than why does pain betray him by using that jutsu come on 6 paths all with rinnegans and strong enough ⦠Hagoromo: Chakra:- Hagoromo had inherited his chakra from his mother Kaguya and alongside his brother had the strongest and largest chakra reserves. Eighth gate Guy was able to fight Single Rinnegan Madara whom is much stronger than Ten-Tails Obito. Hashirama was always stronger than Madara, that show that Hashirama and Madara are not the reinncarnation of Ashura and Indra. I mean the guy is only the second guy to possess the rinnegan i doubt he fears madara who could not even defeat Hashirama. I never said Madara was stronger than Kaguya, If you are talking about the thread where The OP stated Madara has both Seals that literally sealed Kaguya away then there is your reason why I ⦠Madara is already revered as a genius at a young age. ⦠As Hashirama needed Mito to seal Kurama, and Sai to try to seal Madara. I know kurama is child's play for madara. He reacted quickly, taking out two of his own kunai that he had brought for today and looked at the spots he would need to hit in order to stop them. Madara's Ghost. Madara has more ninjutsu than Hashirama, Hashirama's wood style is stronger than Madara's although not by that much. IS OBVIOUS HASHIRAMA IS STRONGER THAN MINATO!" Hell, I'm not talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. ( SM mode is considered to be Organic as it is practiced). Madara is a very vulnerable labile soul because of his misstrust to everyone. Madara > Obito > Nagato. 5) experience- they both have equal experience ion the battlefield. Hiruzen is called the strongest hokage so far and the 3rd to be called the God of Shinobi and the Professor but Hashirama could take on Madara and Kyuubi at the same time and defeat them both while being the 2nd to be called the God of Shinobi. I don't see how is this a contest . So powerful was Hashirama that Madara wasn't able to defeat him, even after having Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan and Nine Tailed Fox (100%) at his disposal. Might Guy and Hashirama are the strongest Organic Shinobi in Naruto-verse.