I might even say hes one of the closest people to me. One or two aspects, especially in composite, do not carry the story. *Also in synastry- my 12th house Juno in Taurus also sits in his 12th house) I would like to help you, but you would need a full analysis of the charts to know what is going on with this 12th house energy. They usually experience issues with drugs or alcohol. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The Moon squares Mercury and Venus in the 9th, Pluto and Saturn in the 3rd, and squares the MC. I met her near the end of my Saturn return (Cancer in the 4th house) and I am aware of deep wounds in me around my need for nurturing and I wonder if my neediness in this area may have something to do with it all. Much depends on the relationship of the 12th house planets to one another. Composite Neptune conjunct the angles (within 4 to 5 degrees) gives Neptune prominence in the relationship. The person with the most crowded 12th house in history is Ann Margret, a Swedish born actor best known for her iconic Easy Rider bike scene and starring in Viva Los Vegas alongside Elvis Presley. Venus is the planet of love which makes him lovable by his likable behavior and persuasive way of talking. In the composite chart, the composite 12th house can show what may be hidden in the relationship, what may play out subconsciously in the relationship, the karma of the relationship, and what needs to be let go of. thanks you very much Dawn to shed some lights on this! Dawn, I just found this and it seems to hold some answers about what is going wrong with my marriage of 8 years. The ego thing is very true. Lilith in the 3rd House: Those with Lilith in the 3rd house may have a dark sense of humor, be into alternative or shocking entertainment & literature, while they have the capability of being fantastic liars. You can imagine the past 10 years have not been easy. In our synastry chart, we also have exact Chiron/Venus opposition. Any insight you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Look at poor Kurt Cobain, who is the poster boy for this aspect. yeah, i think we didnt invest much efforts in getting/staying togetherhowever, when I tried to pursue more, I felt as if I was more needy and I cared more about this relationship, as his respose to my efforts was quite blank and gruff. In contrast, couples who come together to create something for the collective often have the appropriate planets in the composite 12th, there for all to see. I found composite Saturn on the 12th house, trining the composite Sun/Venus/Merc on the 8th and sextile to the Moon on the 2nd. What do You think about Davison Chart? The 12th house is all about past life astrology, so the planets can . Astro-Seek.com Seek and meet people born on the same date as you . He also has 12th house stellium in his own natal chart in Scorpio. Forget about where his planets fall in your houses and instead, put your natal chart around the chart of the composite, then do the same with his. composite moon and saturn are in fifth house. I still feel a strong connection to him, but in a way, I guess I have come to reasonable terms with not being with him. When transit Jupiter is in the composite 12th house, you may have more opportunities to come together behind the scenes, behind closed doors, when no one is watching, and in a professional relationship, this can be how you make lots of progress together. He is my best friend but marriage to him has been so disappointing because theres not much difference between now and when I was single. venus+mars, etc. Neptunes great teaching is that love is a powerful force in and of itself, and should not be used as a binder. Transit Uranus in the Composite 12th House. I still remember very clearly how I felt 10 years ago when I first met my former boyfriend. Hi Evelyne.
Chiron In 12th House, Chiron In Twelfth House Meaning, Chiron In 12th I really appreciate your take on the 12th house; it definitely resonates as true, from my experience. Lilith in 12th House: 5 Key Takeaways. And this is where we must reach out beyond our small lives to touch the greater life that is possible. Composite Sun in 1 st House. But I do have one question? North Node conjuncts Desc. The 12th house doesnt necessarily mean hidden. (You can have this without the 12th of course, but the 12th is inclined to it.) Neptune tries to tell us that we cant own anything permanently, and if we try to possess and not understand the message of universal love (love is its own reward) it will pry our grasping fingers off of whatever we are trying to hold on to. But exploring worlds during sex, soul bonding, feeling understood at a deep level, feeling at home in the spirit of the world, higher purpose together, channeling together, these are all things ive felt with my boyfriend and our 12th house energies. I feel that our connection is a long term one over many lifetimes. His north node in his 12th in pisces which means he will have to travel from a more material existence to a spiritual one in his lifetime, but that could take another 20 years. My sympathies. Thanks! I loved him from the bottom of my heart. )~~~a reader with Sun in Neptune and Saturn and Mars both in 12th house. 00 Angel Number, 00 Angel Number Twin Flame. (excuse my bad English) I cant stop the regretful feelings. Loving and letting go, as well as maturing your love into a transcendant form of love where you are able to love so deeply that you give it the potential to annihilate you, yet you learn to let go and allow the natural changes in the state of our being has been a reoccurring theme of my life. I had to spend years unlearning what love is to me and settle with how individuals differ in what we value in a relationship. Please advise if we can make it to marriage or our relationship is doomed. But the problem with Neptune and XII house synastric connections, is that illusions seem to possess not your brain, but your flesh and soul. We also have Sun conjunct Saturn, Saturn trine Moon double whammy, Sun conjunct North Node double whammy, his venus conjunct my ascendant, My Mercury conjunct his ascendant, our moons conjunct in aries, Sun opposite Sun, Mercury opposite Mercury, and Venus opposite Venus, all within 3 degrees. Dear Dawn, I just see now, that accidentally I typed wrong Your name! As the article says : this being the 12th, most of the time the lesson is learning to love and then let go. Hi!! But, separate he has a Saturn Gemini 12th and I have a Mercury Scorpio 12th. Its time to clean up the karma between you, according to the position of the Nodes in the composite chart. Mars in the 12th can mean unconscious eroticism, aggression, or desire. He literally proposed to me the night we met. Thank you. The story of your inability to connect probably has more to do with your individual chart comparisons than the composite chart. My husband and I, have composite Saturn 27 Pluto 28 Libra in 12th, forming a T square to our Sun 26 Cancer and Venus 19/Mercury 23 Capricorn. Hi HGOf course, these articles cant contain every single exception, and the whole chart has to be taken into consideration. First of all, head to astro.com head to extended chart selection .
12th house synastry - from planet person perspective - Lindaland should i run away from this relationship? It often helps to work together on projects they find meaningful, or to spend some time doing community or charity work. PS.. hes the very first guy I ever met who knew and talked about astrology! A lot of native speakers make this same mistake, and worse. Im so confused by this mix! However, with so much 12th house a individuals, and then as a couple, can there be something more than We are fated, but we are meant to part. Please forgive me, there are much to read and ask, Your inputs will be very much appreciated. Its difficult because boundaries dissolve and we find it hard to maintain our separateness, which is necessary in a healthy relationship. In my experience, the Davison chart reveals more of the day to day reality, and the midpoint chart reveals the inner working dynamic. Hi Dawn. but the composite chart provides the critical information of where a relationship is going and what are its advantages and disadvantages? Most of my relationships are like that . Black Moon Lilith in 12th house suggests an interest in the occult and esoteric teachings. . VERY-VERY SORRY! If the fears arent dealt with (and the fears include loss of all kinds), it can get projected and the world itself can become the enemy. We are happy when were together but he took a job 2 hours away and moved into our country house which I have now come to hate. They have to learn to work togetherthats the challenge. Im trying to figure it out. Aquarius rising at 29 degrees. Thank you for this piece it is prompting reflection. I can no longer approach love as wholeheartedly again. I am a pisces sun, mercury, mars. The midpoint composite points out the places where the planets in the two charts manifest. They rip the rug from under you every other day. The relationship has been on & off, again and again for 28 years. Similarly, the 4th house is used for Gemini, and information is extracted by reading it in the Natal charts. I like my husband as well after 20 years of marriage but I feel like I fell in this tragic love triangle story without asking for it! That you both have the Moon in the 12th makes you both sensitive to your surroundings and highly intuitive. What you are fascinated by is your own longing to acknowledge and feel this power. When there are clusters of planets there are no simple solutions. How does a Composite Sun or Ruler of the chart operate when their planets are in the 12th house but also also conjunct the Ascendant? Should I pay attention to that or to our individual charts? sorry Ive made an error : it is not his descendant point, it is his IC point. We are very romantic together and trust each other. IP . They seem bonded before a word is spoken. Thoughts on this combo would be greatly appreciated by me. We have a composite Pisces Ascendant (3) with a Pisces Saturn in 12 conjunct Ascendant. Here we are, older, everything so different now, lessons learned, and I am seeing that I cant undo the past. Hi Daw One is more transpersonal and numinous, the other deals with our reactions in the day to day world. Neptune, as the higher octave of Venus, is all about connections, and the 12th house allows us to dissolve the boundaries of ordinary life in order to reach out beyond our mundane reality. I read once if someones pluto is attached to his own north node that would mean if the person puts anything between himself and god he will loose it, because that is what Pluto teaches. Hes Gemini sun . But i ran of him, i really dont understand why, it makes me feel so sad. venus all in the 12th house. I have read your response about 12th house and i really do agree with you. Its a damn shame, but I cant make him more a more spiritual person, just because our powerful connection together is deep and spiritual. And we both natally have same aspects, my mars is in my 12th and his moon is in his 12th also. People who fight for justice for others often have Juno prominent in the chart. There is a certain someone whose natal Sun is in the 12 th, his sun also receiving a natal square from his Neptune. The Moon/Mars (Virgo) sextiles a close Sun/Jupiter (Cancer) conjunction in the 10th, sextiles Uranus (Scorpio) in the 2nd, trines Ceres (Capricorn) in the 4th, and squares Neptune (Sagittarius) in the 3rd all very close aspects.
The Composite 12th House in Astrology With a lot of respect for all of your work and wishing you all the best. But it was very devastating experience getting physical, it really failed the first time and we didnt try it again. Conjunct the composite 1st House cusp, it can be difficult to separate mutual fantasy from reality regarding the identity of the relationship. In the composite only our venus and moon are conjunct in the 12th. The higher powers are always tapping at the door, insisting on change, cleansing, and renewal from within (Pluto/Uranus in Virgo), but how do you do that if your connection to the other world and the higher powers are full of fear and resistant to the necessary dissolving that must occur (Saturn in Pisces). In my opinion the midpoint composite is not really true, because our midpoint chart doesnt show the very intense physical love what we live together. What to make of this? Lilith may help 12th house to bring their subconscious patterns to light, or do the opposite and evoke more fear. Are these water houses the culprits that keep pulling me back? Found the site while trying to decipher a stellium in a composite 12th house. Of course, this can lead to overspending and a tendency to overvalue anything that is overindulgent and impractical, but the positive energy Jupiter brings will generally get you through it. Is there nothing better to hope for? Our Composite Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars and Jupiter are in the 12th, Gemini. The relationship only lasted a few months but for some reason it has left a deep-seated, soul-touching impression with me. Most of it is illusions I know.. I loved you from the first moment and that has never changed.) In the 10 years, he (who had been separated from his wife when we first met) went back to his wife, I got engaged to someone else but broke it off realizing I do not love my fiance, reconnected as just friends, and I eventually married someone else, with his blessings. When Pluto is conjunct the North Node, our mistakes can be more dramatic and our adjustments have to be greater. Thanks so much Dawn. *Composite Chiron conjunct Moon in Taurus in 12th house. And 1 more thing HIS VENUS opposes my vertex and my sun, venus and mercury on his ASC conjucts his Venus! I think the fact that were both artists gave this aspect an outlet. He didnt want to commit/marry. Whitelotus. Sadly, our Moon is square to Uranus and I suspect this might be one influence behind her decision to break off all contact with me. Beautiful article!! I am not an expert but this artical ssure proves the writer of it right! ? The love you have for one another may be secret or private, and/or you are called upon to take a leap of faith in order to be with one another. Im afraid I cant get into it in this space (in the synastry course, we spend several lessons comparing the midpoint and Davison charts). Sorry Shannon, Dawn passed away a couple of years ago. We are just in the beginning so should I try this relationship or just let it go? Usually, life will present us with huge dilemmas that cause us to choose between the ego and the soul path. I herd that the good connections between the 1st house rulers and 7 th rulers are so important an the good saturn aspects also. or sth. Astrology Symbols, Elements, Modalities, & House Types. Well, his descendant point, and his ascendant ruler both conjunct my natal Lilith in my12 th house, orb2. In composite, we have sun, mercury and part of fortune in the 12th. the davison chart also has our moon, venus, saturn and uranus in the 1st. New Classes and Courses Beginning In September! But also to wound each other? Thanks Dawn!
The Top 5 Past Life Marriage Indicators In the Birth Chart: Karmic My wife and I have composite moon in the 12 house (aquarius). Telepathy, visiting one another out of body, lucid dreaming where they communicate with one another, strange psychic links and melding of the two energetic bodies. But from the first moment I felt and I know he did as well this very big attraction to him. In our synastry my North Node/South Node axis is conjunct his MC/IC axis and his Moon conjuncts my IC. My concern is a grand trine in the composite chart, Mercury/Jupiter/Venus all conjunct in the 1st (pisces) trine Moon/North node conjunct in the 5th (cancer) and Neptune the chart ruler in the 9th (Scopio). Eventually, some of their views may clash and this can . mars is trine composite sun, pluto, uranus jupiter and neptune- but square moon saturn. We have our composite sun in 12th house, along with saturn. Curious about the sexual response (if there will be anything), its friendly. Composite Pluto in the 12th House With Composite Pluto in the 12th house, you may struggle over power and control in ways that aren't obvious. Knowing him has felt like a blessing and a curse, and yet, to this day, I do not regret falling in love with him that night 10 years ago. We are ignoring what the Source is asking us to do. In the end it was his choice to end it. Could be a seperation. Our strongest aspect is Saturn Trine Moon. Do you think perhaps its just the heavily dominated 12th house of our composite chart thats responsible for my belief that we may be twin flames? 8th and 12th house seem to have haunted me for most of my life , Your email address will not be published. And I read from Stephen Arroyo that it is so important to see the traditional rulers of the signs , for example in Aquarius is more important to see Saturn than Uranus. My life seems to cycle in and out of being able to bring that 12 house/Neptune energy into the everyday world. But, our composite chart is weird. Lilith in Synastry. Couples where the 12th is strong can often experiencewell, lets say itNeptunian weirdness. this is honestly so beautiful to read. Hello, Skye. Is it possible that 2 people with so much 12th/water house activity; both within synastry and composite, there is any hope for them to just be normal and happy together without karma or something else getting in the way? Dont worry, Evelyne. where is very intense connection and I can feel things youve described but also I can see it as long term.. VERY-VERY SORRY! Lilith (M) 5 58' Leo . We grasp for the handrail, and find nothing to hold on to. While separated from his girlfriend and in the final stages of breaking it off with her, we had several secret liaisons- more 12th house. Now I just have to sit and wait around where it is got to leave us! But I think you can count on that Jupiter for evoking good will between you should you decide to reconcile. Fame has its roots in the 12th because that is where we can serve as an example of a prime archetypewe can embody the zeitgeist of our age. The twelfth house is about vocation, our divine calling, and is a very different energy from the status-oriented tenth. what kind of compassion do you think can be generated from a composite mars in 12th house? Im also interested in anything about twin flame relationships. From what you said, it seems like perhaps these give the relationship an element of commitment, partnership, and longevity that it wouldnt otherwise have albiet in an unusual, community-oriented way. Our date was perfect but too creepy cause he told his very deep secrets and early regrets to me. For instance I have a Composite Taurus Sun at 1-2 degrees in the 12th Conjunct Taurus Eros (also in the 12th at 4 degrees), and the Taurus Asc at 5 degrees. Mars & NNode in Cancer/10th. I know that there is a purpose regarding this relationship, but i cant find it Lets put it this waythe Davison chart is a time/space chart; its reality is anchored in the actual midpoint between the times of birth and places of birth. I was with him longer than Ive ever consecutively been with someone- 1 1/2 years. Because thats what it feels like! This is an ultimate guide to Lilith in the Twelfth House of astrology! This man can be my everything and this feeling will not change. We had an instant connection, and I ended up in his apartment the first night we met. I thought that because of the 8th house or vertex, I forced him to confront his own dark side.
Star*Mate Composite Report by Pamela Thompson The fatedness of it all doesnt make sense at times, like union of the subconscious. 1) Planetary house overlays (1, 5, 7, 8, 9 = most important) 2) Planetary aspects. That may mean leaving you behind. Thank you for your answer. intresting to know why its so bad. Thank you very much Dawn. We have (taurus) mars-venus conjunction on the 12th house and it is so real in our life: we need so strong the deep intimacy and the so close physical and spiritual nearness together, and it is better for us to be alone together for our happiness. I am a strong 12th houser myself and it meant so much to me that we could live together and I never felt my precious solitude was infringed upon. . Thank you Dawn for this very interesting article. *Also in synastry- my Vesta conjunct NN in Gemini are the degree right before his Ascendant. We are both married similar age kids. That was over three years ago. The composite chart has Sun/Jupiter conjunct by degree in the 12th in Scorpio, moon in the 12th in late Libra, and Scorpio rising. When your North Node is in the 12th house of your partner's natal chart, you will help the 12th house native become more spiritual and grow as a person. It also works the other way. Those with this placement can benefit significantly from learning how to . Im sure a lot of my readers have been there and sympathize with you completely. One of my longest relationships featured a Lilith-Sun/Ascendant conjunction in synastry. We are from different countries and we live bliss for few moments and then a lot of despair and pain separated without any logic A tough road between Heaven and Hell! but thats life afterall! :In a composite chart: What does it mean when both people have juno in the 12 House? In synastry, his Pluto is in my 12th conjunct my ascendent tightly, and I have nothing in his 12th. I dont know why im writing you this because uncounsciously know this relationship was all about love and let go. Ive recently broke up with what was felt the love of my life the most pure and locvng relationship ever. That 12th house/Neptune influence is devasting if left unchecked. Can you say anything on the north node transiting the twelfth house on a composite? Happy holidays and thank you for this article. The composite with the Great Unrequired Impossible love of my life , shows Sun conjunct Neptune and SN , in Scorpio VII . Is Your experience the same? Wow very insightful thank you so much, I love your writing!! Arent these positive aspects good enough to sustain a relationship down-to-earth, telling me to forgive and try again or just simply blowing the matter worse and prolonging it?. Im also sorry to say that trines arent all theyre cracked up to besometimes they just pour energy into whatever else theyre aspecting, in this case, the major square. Well it is a living hell right now! We have experienced together so much and it helps my mental developement so much and also your idea about loving and letting go interests me a lot. It was emotional and intense, also warm and familiar at the same time. Saturn and Uranus both have a lot to say about Aquarius. Although Im aware this is only an illusion of my mind and nothing else , this illusion is so strong and so frequent that I ve at least learned to live with it and Ive given up struggling against it. Often, Sun/Neptune relationships just fade away or dissolve without anyone knowing why. However, Sag and Cap are very, very different from one another and the things that make you feel secure, comforted and appreciated will be very different, unless other things in the chart back them up. I don know what to do. I never understood that statement could you put some light on it for me? Our midpoint composit cannot show any true about our relationship. My natal venus is in the 12 th house. Its also trine to the moon and sextiling Uranus. Gilly. It's time for the wave to return to the ocean. Unable to forget it? Lord knows I do drive myself crazy with lost love/unrequited love. My sun in the 3rd is squeezed in a T-square between Saturn in Pisces, in the 6th and Pluto/Uranus in Virgo, in the 12th. The lower expression has to be elevated, and the higher expression needs to be realized. Sometimes the ego gets in the way of our path, whether through fear, resistance to growth, resistance to break old habits and personal tendencies, or through a lack of interest in what is wanted of us. These are just a few of the synastry aspects. It was a complicated, intense, spicy hot love affair that changed both of our lives. Transit Jupiter in the Composite 12th House. Through the sixth house, you must learn to function in the world efficiently and take up the calling to serve Humanity. It often indicates couples who seem to have a lot of shared experience and shared historyeven if they are new to one another, it feels old. They recognize one another when they meet. Please your opinion.
Part of Fortune in 12th House - astrolibrary.org She becomes the energy that stands in our way even as she offers dark gifts. Hi annaMy feeling is that the word god is loaded, psychologically speaking. Or ? Neptune is in the 4th, Libra. Sun/Uranus conjunct in the 1st. hi dawn.
The Composite Chart Sun - Through the Houses - Galactic Mystic When synastry presents itself on the Pluto/Node conjunction, the partner to the Pluto person will instigate growth, either from a negative or positive stimulus. Lilith in the Twelfth House of Astrology (Explained) June 3, 2022 by Wisdom Tavern. We are mainly connected by a love of art, music and film.
Composite Chart: Composite Ascendant Signs | Cafe Astrology .com The diurnal chart's house cusps will also conjunct progressed and directed planets throughout the year and can mark significant days. AT ALL. Ninety-three percent of her astro is in the 12th: the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Lilith, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus. Several weeks ago, my wife revealed that she has been hiding a secret life of crushes and short-lived affairs from me over the past 4 years.
Sun In 11th House Synastry - How It Actually Affects Your Relationship In my experience, if you have a good synastry but a difficult composite, the couple get along with one another but have problems establishing the relationship in the outside world. The feelings I have for him, I feel, are something I just have to live with for the rest of my life.