Our "power struggles" with Turbosquid stopped the moment Matt Wisdom banned our account and we stoped doing business, however that doesn't alter our will to expose this kind of business practices. there is low quality traffic on cgtrader and also became too much focused on 3d printing models so gets affordable if u have many low quality printable models of cheap prices. Comment goo's like this, quote "Awesome model, converted this guy over into maya and he looks great" end quote. It doesn't matter if the printing industry is growing fast. TurboSquid has stopped working in WM and lost some buyers in the middle East countries and Asia. Turbosquid is butt ugly and greedy, I hope when CG gets bigger than TS, they don't end up the same way. I think I do a decent job at earning my keep.. And yes, it this is like if shapeways started doing cg. Maybe CG Trader should consider a large add-on to the site, where the customers can click a link, and go to a whole new site (owned by cg trader) that does sells strictly 3d printable models :) Just an idea :). Change Method. TurboSquid be avoided guys! You could have a superman body with an iron man head and spiderman gloves. Animated and Rigged 3D Finger Models | TurboSquid This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character, rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Realistic White Male and Female Head Bundle. former the 3d studio, 3D export, creative crash and Turbosquid). There is plenty of "undercutters" everywhere and some short-sighted content developers that seem to only care about quick cash-grabs and most of the time doesn't even have enough data to state a valid opinion based on the contrast of facts over medium-long periods of time. This is a totally separate "operation" that is going on under the acquisitions of CGstudio and T3DFM, which serve also as noisy cover to "wag the dog". That takes longer time. That is why I like to use Apple as the example of preference. However, fear of losing sales kept me both on Ts and CGt for long time (not liked it). I left the turbosquid from Diamond level . If it is true that other sites are taking a higher margin and a larger slice of profit share, they have some kind of capital to work magic with, both with artists who are accepting less and buyers who are paying more. You could say CGt is a service platform that harbors and connects sellers and buyers of specific digital goods, in theory there's no limit to how much people and their digital products/services they could connect. I didn't checked it for a while (around a year) but comparatively Cgtrader has a much more streamlined upload system compared to Turbosquid's. We are writing to inform you that we are taking your content offline for 60 days as you have continued to change your prices to be higher on TurboSquid. Also the management is awkward on TS. I agree that these two parts - CG and 3D printing should be split at least externally/ visually. I'm done with them. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. I think this game can only be won by the best community building force and that is CGt. So part of the problem would probably be solved if a buyer would indeed get reputation points for buying models and gain more access in the process. This industry really needs a giant hub were al CGpeople (weather young and inexperienced ore diehard veterans) can communicate, learn, trade, fundraise and collaborate. Rigged Female 3D Models | CGTrader Guys really have the potential to screw greedy monopoly and earn some decent position on the market. Let's give some time to time. Yes, at this point the level of sales of the TS is higher than the CGTrader and TS has a more flexible search system. Dude, I have from 500$ a month at SGtride and i don't feed fat Turbosquid bastards. In other words as an artist in TS you are not so well protected, as it's here at CGT. Same with copyright infringements, same with low quality models (a friend of mine bought recently a model here, which was supposed to be .OBJ compatible : but the seller had just exported the obj from its original program, without even editing the mtl file to have the textures loaded automatically ! Any more than 500,000 polygons in one scene and that will make opening and closing it a really long process not to mention that if you trying to animate something in the scene you may have to keep hiding things in various layers or create the animation in a separate one. I like how there is no join up fee. Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. Check out our picks of the best sites to download free 3D models for 3D printing, games & animation, graphic design, architecture, and more. royalty scale you work up on is all very cool the fact you can print here sell files here and stream files all on one listing CG TRADER FOR THE WIN!!! It is likely that people will want to try out new things in their stores from time to time. Also you need to think about the advantage of not having to worry about shipping costs etc with digital art. I was thinking about searching for specific 3d models through a site like Google, not generic visitation standing of a whole site, which in itself doesn't tell anything about what clients look for. Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. TS has terrible support, i had stupid responses from them during my interaction with them. I understand CGtrader's management don't want to bet on one horse but it probable lives the two horses crippled in this case. It's true. The more people ho place your item in their stores the higher your ranking for that product gets "in the pool that is". New content is not provided to the on "Turbo" site. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment Payment Method Its great way to compete and fair . :). I'm not a modeler, I come here to buy models and this site is surprisingly obtuse when it comes to layout. Ps. 2. People are followers they have always been and always will be. Site issues? They provide clients with pretty much everything they could possibly want at reasonable prices and have a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all their items. Fact is, the best is where is can make the most sales. TurboSquid Member Services, I'm a first time seller (+-2 Months). Allot of snags and details need to be worked out in order to make this sorts of things happen but the main idea here is to have complimentary forces working together to make a better product. At least some aspects of it. my main income its still TS. Please let us know if you have any feedback. Yes you are right Zet! A little more than a year passed since our public disagreement with Turbosquid policies and behavior that ended our relationship as content creator and reseller. Yes, sometimes your points are not displayed for a day or two, but there were problems with the rating of models. Selling 3D models on Ebay or Amazon would probably generate problems? I ended up terminating my account, seeing as I couldn't operate the store under such conditions - not only did I risk having the work I'd put in uploading items undone at any moment, I also had no idea what pitfalls I had to avoid to not have items taken down. During all these years we always felt Turbosquid favored a sort of chaos and unfair competition between sellers because they were profiting a lot from that lack of understanding and cooperation between content creators. This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. We all agree that CGT is the better site and needs to win the fight but we all need to reach out to the really influential people and make sure they start promoting the site or we won't win. Prices are only guaranteed at the time of the creation of this document. Some while ago someone (if he is real, can't even verify that) bought my snakebot model on Ts and he posted a nice comment. Most people say you get more sales at Turbosquid than any other 3D marketplace, so even if you get a much lower royalty % in the end you get more money, and while this is true up to a point (NOT x80 sales in any case), what most people don't realize is what happens IF your products are NOT in Turbosquid but you continue to sell in other marketplaces and have a bit of patience. Here it is quite seamless and elegant. Buyers tend to look for things based on the category and budget and like to be able to put two products side by side to compare them and get a better understanding of why one is better than the other or which product is more suitable for them as an individual. I used to hate how it would crash constantly or find that half way through the process even after saving a draft,suddenly the poly count numbers or other text, numbers etc suddenly got erased. A very interesting idea about the stores and collections. I'm not sure about your analysis. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. But if you are on Turbosquid as an exclusive sale (models will be sold only on the website TurboSquid), Cgtrader can lose and this position, in favor of TS or do you prefer to do business with companies you trust and feel comfortable working with while knowing you are supporting a #FairBusiness model that in the future will revert in your own direct benefit? That is true, but im talking if buyer is already familiar with existence of CGTrader, he can reap all the benefits then. Reputation for promptly fixing problems? The product team is reviewing your comments and this is something we will definitely work on. As modeller and as salesman i am interested in earn money only. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). My sales are not still on par with TS, but I haven't published new models for quite some time, because I only have time to create models to enter challenges from time to time. I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. Having said that creating models of that high end quality is quite the burden on 3D modelers who just do it as a hobby or work 3D part time so a lot of artists are moving away from TS because they can't sell their regular models on there anymore. @skifx, apparently your feeding hand is just too small. Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. I removed all products from TS. You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. In fact, I had taken deliberate steps to ensure that I included no content in my designs that could even be construed as overlap. Most small or midsized companies I worked with, did their best to cap their scene polygons at no more 500,000 all models included. Answer: IN my opinion Turbosquid is a great site for selling models. . Another thing that makes CGT better than TS is the friendships that one is able to make within the artist community. We can help here by simple putting the links to our work on our social media. I wont be using TurboSquid due to their royalty system and the fact that I would have to hunt down non-existing forms to prove I am not an American resident and thus avoid paying 30% govt. [url=http://www.google.com]google2[/url] TS can go to Hell, and never return again. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. The clients like to waste money for a more expensive model at TSquid, perhaps knowing that the artist will get shafted with a measly 40% return, and that's that. Marius Kalytis (founder of this place) was a 3D artist himself and took notice of the questionable policy's the established market had adopted (leaving room to do it differently). I think CGT should begin doing the same and promoting people for being exclusive to CGT after all that will help buyer confidence when they realize how many of their best artists are switching sides! Thingiverse remains the king for licensing, as you can transfer the licence within the site. Especially if the buyer asks to change something in the configuration of models or to clarify details. They have more traffic so i'm told. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. [google][http://www.google.com|google4 ] Hopefully this will start another interesting discussion . Advertising? [link="http://www.google.com"]google1[/link] No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. I agree with Captainmarlowe than one of the most important ideas to develop is more "education" for Sellers about all aspects involved in this business, and some kind of system that favors good and fair business practices and penalizes bad ones. I will very much want to peruse. I still get more sales on TS, despite having adjusted all prices to compensate their extortions. --GENERAL--. I'm also active for some time on other marketplaces as well (e.g. You can download any 3d model in all popular 3d formats including MAX, OBJ, FBX, 3DS, STL, C4D, BLEND, MAYA and other. It is always very reassuring to know that our opinions are taken into account. I think there needs to be a more valued motivation ($) in order to get people rank in great numbers consistently. Rigged 3D Female Models | TurboSquid Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. Considering it as a seller, CGTrader is NOT better because I have almost no sales at all while I have about 10 sales every month on TS. Needed something better and found it at CGt. Same for me, here. I'm really happy to see CGTrader growing. Currently on a tight budget, would lose a substantial cut to pay for software licenses and hardware. ", Exactly, no one knows the model better than the one who made this model. Sometimes 3D model can have some errors, or it was not 100% what buyer had imagined it will be. There is indeed much structural work that needs to be done here but the core foundation/principal is here. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. personally CGTrader is the second site where I realize more sales, I think we should avoid generalizing his own experience. Got my model (https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/furniture/cabinet/handles-vol-01-pbr) Be very wary when the artist is from India or other similar countries. Dear adentonclark, In fact my sells on TS are actually going down while they go up on CGt. The title says it all!1. Escorts jaipur But there are questions that are not achievable for TS, and they will not go to such steps, and it is this: 1. After all everyone can afford to put down 1 dollar so it is reasonable. As we think that CGtrader holds the best core for these kind of improvements, I would like to hear the opinion of Marius or any other CGtrader representative about the ideas recently proposed in this forum, specially: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cathedral-paris-notre-dame-3d-obj/933856?referral=pit_zavra The stores/collections idea sounds good but maybe a simpler voting system for any product/seller will give an easy ranking system to take in count for search results among other factors. Sure, but I won't rinse and repeat the whole uploading process if it happens though. According to TS "Marmoset Toolbag's watermark" is an overlay and a no no. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. TurboSquid goes down, It becomes miserable the users are ,,working from behind,, ! Fantasy is a bit better, but sic-fi gets me 10 copyright infringements on the first page alone (star wars characters, mainly). Rigged 3D models are available in Autodesk 3ds Max (.max), Maya (.ma), Softimage (.xsi), Cinema 4D (.c4d) and many other file formats. It needs to be obvious where to go if you want one or the other. I agree to what captainmarlowe is telling. Anyway, there is still some ocasional Turbosquid fanboy that bashes CGtrader and promotes Turbosquid in public forums and social media while writes this in TS forums at the same time: Having a direct link/communication is also critical in detecting possible needs and potential new business. Ts just took royalty's from other items I've sold to get the money back. I have no problem with a site offering an option for seller/buyer to find quality print-ready products. @skifx, @made21, my royalty rate is 80% and i earn from each sale from 72% to 77% depending on the model's price - the pricier the model is, the lesser payment processing fee gets. - CGTrader pays immediately; TS waits until the end of the month. Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. That's what I'm saying all the time and what I didn't like because I was not selling models for 3d printing and reason why I left. Payment Method Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. Imagine how much easier it would be for a games company to do a search by typing in (sword, 15 dollars and then 500 polygons. TS staff do their best and is not responsible for the strategic choice of TS The first thing you see is almost only 3D printing assets. When pressed, Turbosquid could give no clearer specification than "it is too similar". Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. What this shows is their weakness. It's like if shapeways.com will start selling classic "cg" models. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. No, I don't think it's just about SEO. Putting 3D printing as the main product range on first page doesn't help, as has been noted. At the time my CGt account was not performing so well and it enforced that belief (it was probably due to longer presence and better position on Ts and new on CGt). I like the deposit proposal of flat_3d, but jet again it probably best be part of a repertoire of marketing tools the designer could choose from, not a global policy. According to me ,in the future, more a 3DMarketplace will be open more it will take to success. If you're searching for a regular model, you have to click on the little icon "CG models", but nothing changes on the page when you do so. On TS buyer cant do such thing, he needs to contact support on TS. This is critical information (to me at least) in regard to evolution and overall development of the products and services you want to deliver. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader Others download beautiful jpeg or tiff files to set as their desktop wallpapers at the office. ! You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. captainmarlowe is right. By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. Of course if you are buying models for the next Transformers movie the poly count won't matter that much because those models may be 500,000 each and you have almost unlimited resources to run those. I am huge fan of the CGT team because they really try hard to make us happy. (e.g. I could go on and on, it kept me puzzled. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. It always depends on how you look at this industry from your point of view: - Are you into this market trying to make a living out of it? Offering customers best prices on TurboSquid is mandatory for all artists publishing on TurboSquid. ;). A few months went by with my models offline and during that time my GCt sales gradually went up at a level consistent with the few sales I had left behind on Ts so I just deleted all my models at Ts. Ebay it's ALL about direct seller/customer relationship. Ts has always been an overly expensive service and its not that good at all compare to its cost. You can just buy and return it if it is not to your satisfaction. For myself, long live CGTrader and may they keep their principles as they grow. Then someone ells will just create another CGt alike and Ts would have to keep buying these places ones a year, and after that it would have to buy them every month. 3D stock would have main subs like architectural, medical, automotive, etc). Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. Ha, ha. The next thing CGT needs to do is get in with Ebay, Amazon, walmart etc places where everyone buys not just 3D enthusiasts and that regular people trust with their money. just share your links (: I like both but prefer cgtrader all day. In 2020, I've opened a CGT account and start selling interesting 3D Models. If CGT would manage to draw more buyers from TS then even more sellers would migrate here. Please don't get impression that i'm trying to bash CGT, i don't i favor CGT over TS any day, but i want that they up their game in this concurent buisness. A: TurboS*swearword-here* will start to DOWNTICK PRICES to match them to "other selling sites" on customer complaint, so I will remove every model they demand for down-adjustment, and I'm sure I won't be alone in this. The site owners could also act on other various levels : CGTrader has the better platform from my point of view, better rates if i remember correct. It might be a good idea to see what the customer experience is with various market places by making an experimental purchase at each and seeing who has the most effective methods of enticing return visits and encouraging word-of-mouth bumps. @dafunk @S/C. Female Hand, Andrey Gritsuk : Hello Friends, glad to present you my My price at the time was same both on Ts as on CGt but after some time position on CGt got better and sales was picking up. We'll let you know about that soon - all CGT sellers will receive via email, so stay tuned! So just to be constructive (and this will be my last post here, because I don't want to hijack the thread anymore, here are some ideas : Sometimes you have to support the buyer. The very best thing I find on CGT is the disponibility of the team. Blendswap.com5. Every market needs time, every business needs it. but outside of the fact cgtrader is 95% designers and 5% customers its way better and easier to use more professional looking and feeling. I posted my first model today and have to say it was a very pleasant experience. I'm always in favor for more options and less restrictions. I doubt the owner will say no to a hefty clump sum, no questions asked, in exchange for site keys and source. By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. If anything buyers should get lots of points for buying. This is from my own personal experience. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/industrial/other/shipping-container--4. I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. I want to say the following. Some points for and against. In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market. For me CGTrader is the best and CGTrader has the best structure of a 3d site !!! This would allow genuine potential buyers to check the quality of models. It is also wise to invest in good ideas that are future proof. To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. Money rules! Think about your future: Then they would only find the relevant models and get to purchasing them right away. 3dsky.org2. Thor (Rig) for Maya 15. Thank you. Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. That is very strong argument in favor of CGT, but then again, don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all? They had shoddy products but they created the illusion of having something amazing and that was better than a PC. The system would make a seller more responsible and promote a culture of diversification (in theory). They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. That is the most important reason for them to be on CGtrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money. I had a conversation with Eduardas he confirmed that they will improve the feedback system. The rumour that they can "borrow" models for check-out before buy to particularly trustworthy clients could also be true. Let the experts talk about : What is the best site for free 3D models This site is bloated with 3D print ready models, crap models and "adult content / i cant see it". I'm just dreading that sober moment when TS offers to buy CGT to kill off the competition. We can't even communicate on Ts, and that in an age of supper connectivity, it's just the world on his head. and we lived the evolution of Turbosquid from being a pioneer of the 3D assets market working alongside the real content developers to become a typical corporation with financial backing from angel investors that only cares about financial results and is trying to strive the 3D market towards a monopoly where they can control both the producers and the customers, where acting as just a middleman gets Turbosquid the most profit from both. It is a shame that cg trader has so few people using it but turbosquid has been going for some time now and is very well established. flob3d: I don't know if Jonathan invented the CheckMate, but what I can say is that Jonathan is a good professional and he often helped me a lot, so I have no complaints to make. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, + c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). The fact that you can upload models immediately rather than waiting 3 months for them to get reviewed by some random people that won't have the time + the website design and the community inside CGTrader. Yes indeed! Using TurboSquid 3D Models in Virtual Worlds. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment There are indeed some snags in data management and the sorting out system. The art is to do it structurally organized and easily navigable and then it is a matter of giving the people the right tools and they will do the rest issue I think. Closed my Ts account because it was completely useless and obsolete. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. To be honest, it's hard to me to believe that such respectable people like Mantas and Eduardas would refuse to remove negative feedback if it was given without firm reason. I hope it goes well for cgtrader i really like this page :-). See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. I have noticed that a lot of artists are moving to Asia to find jobs where they are far better respected and paid what they are worth. And therefore it doesnt matter where it is. The utopian view here is a successful merge of all related activities (or at least part), connecting as much people as possibly can that are doing something that could potentially involve 3D, and in doing so eventually streamline part of the global 3D marketplace and increase the amount of successful transactions between many possible parties. Their only flaws are the lack of publicity and their search engine. My friend didn't get any support. So what's needed? I can't download that lamp and see it's quality myself - so why would I purchase anything from the creator when I don't know if I'll be satisfied?
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